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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:10:03 GMT
Well, here goes it! I've started! :shock: This could be a long one, especially as Winter in fast approaching. Not a lot to look at for the moment, but i wanted to start the thread. Couple of pictures of what has started the oven project and caused the delay in getting started first. New patio and retaining wall been installed by yours truly. Turf re-layed after levels all sorted out, along with new gates. Then got a foundation dug out, and managed to get a wood store base blocked up from some of my recycled materials from the local farm.     hope this worked, if not, please let me know! cheers! |
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:11:15 GMT
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looking good, never to late in the year to start work if you ask me. Also recycling is great for the environment and pocket.
What size dome are you hoping for, as its looking close to the size of my base, 1.5m square? I am also on the diagonal and think I will only be able to squeeze a 30" onto mine.
ps not sure if you noticed but your retaining wall is not straight
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:11:57 GMT
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Always nice to see a new build underway. It looks a fair size and you should be able to build a decent oven on those walls. There is quite a lot of tolerance allowed when building walls, but as Turkey has mentioned...the R/H side wall seems to be leaning quite a bit. This wall will take a fair bit of the weight from the dome....all the archwork plus any chimney design....If you draw a vertical line from the center of the top block and the bottom of the vertical line is not inside the r/h side of the bottom block, then that wall may have to be redressed.(The leaning tower of "Pizza" is based on this principle.)
It's a great start....and...any comments are only a guide to help you through the stages.
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:12:39 GMT
Must be a trick of the photography, it's all bang on, honestly.  The wall behind is 150 odd years old, so isn't on the level in any direction! There's a further outer skin of brickwork to face it all up, that's yet to go in It's about 1.4m square at present, so with the outer facing brick it'll be 1.6m ish. I'm aiming for a 32" plus dome. I've drawn out some plans, which at this very early stage seem to be on target. I've trimmed down the planned insulation slightly, as i don't need a lot of retained heat. There will also be a charcoal bbq, along with integrating my old Gas bbq in an "L" shaped section built towards the patio from the left side of the woodstore opening. All hopefully built in a manner in keeping with its surroundings. Older recycled bricks, with Lime mortars and a wooden countertop...hopefully. well, thats the minds eye plan for the moment. I'm sure it'll evolve with materials supply. It's more than just an oven! :shock: May have bitten off more than i can chew! Got some concrete lintels yesterday, thanks once again to your Jewsons discount set up! Hope to get them set in this weekend. cheers guys and gals! |
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:13:16 GMT
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I think you should be on for the 32" with the extra brick thickness. My hearth is not square due to following the fences without getting out a set square lol.
I like the idea of the bbq being integrated, I wanted to achieve that but when I measured it all out the wife put her foot down. I am hoping to get a tuscan grill for coal bbq'ing in the oven archway.
It does feel a little more serious when you try to lay your firebrick hearth level but it was actually easier than I thought, as was making a bodge indispensable tool. If you get a decent diamond blade then cutting the bricks is not as hard as I expected, soak the bricks over night and have someone spay the blade and mine is still stone cold after cutting 10 bricks in quick succession, so hopefully not damaging its blade at all.
Your work looks better than mine so far so I don't think the dome will be as difficult as it seems now.
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:13:43 GMT
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It sounds like you are in total control of your project....I have every faith that you haven't bitten off more than you can chew. If you are planning a 32" inch oven that should still leave you enough room to get 6/7" of combined thermal
insulation on the outside of the dome......are you thinking of enclosing the dome with a housing or leaving it with just a waterproof coating? (either is fine)
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:14:17 GMT
I think i prefer the plain dome with a brick chimney approach. I was thinking of 50mm Rockwool Fire Barrier, Leca Limecrete over and then lime rendered, but i may sway towards the Segrelime System over the Rockwool now. The Lime render would be hard to completely waterproof.
Does anyone have any experience with Segrelime?
You guys are so confidence boosting! thanks!
p.s. Managed to get two thirds of the floor (Lintels with slabs) in place this weekend, but no photographs yet. I hate these short days!
Cheers, Dan.
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:15:14 GMT
Cannyfradock SITE ADMIN Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 1945 Location: Newport. S.East Wales Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ....we had 1 member who used and posted comments on it. Here's one link..... woodovenukforum.forumup.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=389&highlight=segrelime&mforum=woodovenukforum You can always type "segrelime"...or any other word into our "search" option to give any topics already covered with the searchword typed in. Terry _________________ ......I'm still learning Honi soit qui mal y pense |
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:15:43 GMT
Over the last couple of weekends i've been able to put in a few more hours on the base/woodstore.    My little daughter Peony wanted in on the photo action, as usual ,even though she was suffering with Chickenpox. Hence the Jarmies and wellies! She loves to splodge about with the mortar mixes! Cleared up a bit and started filling with wood last night. I expect that'll be it until the better weather in the new year now. Used a couple of concrete lintels across the span, then laid the slabs. The front edge is also supported by the arch which it one and a half bricks deep also, like the reveals. Facing brickwork will tie to this, and finish level with the Thermolites i'm going to use as base insulation. made a slight mistake in the cutting of one of the slabs, but hey it's all going to get covered up at the moment! cheers guys! |
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:16:21 GMT
   An old Pre Victorian Barn burnt down just across the road around the 5th November and i've been waiting for the Demolition Guys to arrive. A quick word, and i secured 10 barrow loads of good half solid clay Suffolk Reds! :wink: I hope they'll do! |
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:16:58 GMT
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Your base is coming along fine...nice arch over the wood storage.
The reclaimed Suffolk reds look a really good find. Are you going to clad the block-work with them or were you also thinking of using them for the dome?.....they're a good clay brick so they'll work for both.
Terry
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:17:26 GMT
Thanks Terry, as you can see I've got a lot of brick cleaning to do, so i'll be sorting them at the same time into best quality useable halves, which will be for the dome, and then any remaining will be for cladding the base and barbeque area along with the other bricks that i have collected over the last few months.
I'm very surprised by the weather and now wished that i'd carried on with my build for a month or so. But i've been following the other ongoing builds and maintaining my enthusiasm!
Once again thanks for your help and experience!
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:18:08 GMT
Hello guys, hope you're all keeping warm in the snowy weather?
Picked up some Ceramic blanket and lightweight kiln bricks off of a Freecycle post on saturday before the snow fell. It appeared and i jumped on it like a cat! :wink:
Now...the bricks are lightweight and measure 114x230x65, and look similar to the bricks you guys use for your builds.
I'm presuming that these are insulating bricks though?
About 15 in a re-useable Lidl Bag was easily carried.
This is fine, as i'll use them in the floor under my storage heater tiles.
I think i've just about enough of what seems to be 20mm ish Ceramic blanky too.
I thought i'd use this as a first layer before some Rockwool i have hanging about?
Once again, your confirmations and commentations are eagerly sought
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Post by bookemdanno on Feb 9, 2012 13:18:44 GMT
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The lightweight kiln bricks sound more like insulation briquettes....in any case they will be fine under your storage heater tiles.
Ceramic blanket even 20mm would be perfect before laying the rockwool. Rockwool is a good insulation but has not very good fire-proofing properties....not in our field anyway. A barrier is needed for the rockwool and your ceramic blanket will do the trick
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Post by Calaf on Feb 9, 2012 13:35:12 GMT
Going to be an excellent build, I can tell.
But I think Peony needs a bigger barrow!
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