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Post by cannyfradock on Aug 8, 2013 13:13:12 GMT
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kipper
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Post by kipper on Aug 8, 2013 20:30:04 GMT
hiya cannyfradock im watching this sale with intrest. as im only into this new hobby a few days im unsure as what price to go to. could you give a rough idea of what its all worth.  thanks in advance |
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Post by cannyfradock on Aug 8, 2013 20:47:37 GMT
Hello Kipper
The cheapest fire-bricks that I know of is from Kilnlinings (he sponsers our forum and gives members 10% discount. ) His bricks are £1.29p each. Vitcas bricks are more expensive (not sure how much....so 50 full bricks and 108 halves plus off-cut bricks would cost about £140 + vat. Ceramic blanket is about £40 and you have a pot of fire-cement and mesh also. It's probably worth about £200 or more and the current bid is £112. If you lived in that region it is well worth a punt. As you live in S.Wales it may not prove a wise investment. Delivery charge is about £60 wherever you buy from.
Terry
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Post by dunnes2002 on Aug 8, 2013 20:48:02 GMT
if you look at the forum sponsor www.kilnlinings.co.uk/ and price it all up it should give you a good idea. Although postage may come into play as kilnlinings charge about £55 i think so remember to factor that in. I'd do it for you but unfortunately i'm still at work....  |
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Post by kipper on Aug 8, 2013 21:10:26 GMT
thanks for the information.Terry its relatively an easy drive for me to collect so that wouldn't be an issue.i will see how the auction goes but its probably already pretty close to what I would pay for it as theres some used pieces in there.
thanks dunes for your offer of help ive just had a look and your right the delivery charge does bump it up a bit.and I didn't find the chicken wire.
on the plus side there would be the 10% to take off
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Post by dunnes2002 on Aug 9, 2013 21:27:55 GMT
Did you win?
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Post by kipper on Aug 11, 2013 10:05:45 GMT
unfortunately not. was disappointed with myself for being much too slow with my bids.
I suppose it gives me time to think it all out properly though.
going to get a plan for the base and build that first now.
thanks for the input though.
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Post by kipper on Aug 14, 2013 15:05:49 GMT
I popped down to my local reclamation yard today for some fire bricks. unfortunately they didn't have any. but they did have some old engineers bricks there for 50p each. he assured me they would be fit for the purpose. i would just like a second opinion on this if you have any experience with them please.
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Post by cannyfradock on Aug 14, 2013 19:46:22 GMT
Kipper
I would always recommend either fire-bricks or storage heater (fire) bricks for the hearth, but many a good dome has been built from quality clay bricks (never concrete). Some people have said that clay bricks spall...or flake under the intense heat but i haven't come across this myself. The dome of my first build was built with class b engineering bricks. I don't use the oven as I didn't know about the insulation layers needed when I built it, but I have fired it up many times AND got it hotter than the devil's own festering arsehole and none of the bricks have spalled or had any heat damage.
If I wasn't using fire-bricks my first choice after that would be reclaimed old red clays. After that would be full staffordshire blues, then engineering bricks so your reclamation yard bricks should be OK.
Terry
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Post by kipper on Aug 14, 2013 21:17:35 GMT
cheers Terry, they also have the red clays so will go back and see if they have enough with a nice face for the inside of the dome. I did later find your old post where you built with the engineering bricks so got some good info of that.im guessing those red bricks should be easier to cut too which would be a bonus. i will take your advise and buy fire bricks for the earth. thanks for all your help.  |
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Post by bookemdanno on Aug 14, 2013 21:30:18 GMT
Don't use the sandy, soft reds that leave dust on your hands though Kipper.
You want a hard glazed clay brick. Think Victorian Terraced house rather than Old Farmhouse.
I love reclaimation yards, and having a mooch about. Even for old timber, its better than the new stuff you get from Merchants these days!
Good Luck!
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Post by kipper on Aug 15, 2013 13:07:52 GMT
thanks b yes I know what you mean there was lots of interesting looking stuff to be had.Will take another look at those reds was taking more notice of the engineers.I'll take some photos on my phone next time I'm there.
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