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Post by lal5000 on Sept 8, 2016 9:49:19 GMT
Hi, I have so many questions so I thought I would post my build on here and ask my questions as I go along. Still contemplating between a pompei firebrick oven and a modular from woodfire gourmet. Either way, they will be fully insulated above and below. Im not the best at DIY so leaning towards the modular. Anyway. Here goes. . Will keep it updated as the build progresses: 1. Oak sleeper base 2. Filled the step with some leftover sandstone from my patio 3. To save on concrete filled middle of foundation with rubble 4. Reinforcement in strip footings 5. All poured 6. Using hollow concrete blocks for wall - will fill with rebar and concrete 7. Reclaimed slabs for the wood store base That's it for now.. Any comments welcomed!
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Post by bry on Sept 8, 2016 15:59:20 GMT
I personally wouldn't get too excited with the rebar unless you already have some to use up, as long as you stagger the blocks it'll be solid. Your diy skills look perfectly good to me
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Post by diggerjones on Sept 8, 2016 17:12:28 GMT
Looking good. Timber and cement don't work in my opinion, it looks good but timber will move.shrinks and expands then cracks any cement based materials next to it. Where in north wales are you, my dad is from Llanberis
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Post by lal5000 on Sept 8, 2016 17:55:09 GMT
that's slightly worrying regarding the timber and concrete! I knew the oak would move but didn't think it would move enough to crack the concrete! I'm sure it will all stand nonetheless. fingers crossed. those bits of rebar are the off cuts from. the sheets I've bought to pour the slab. thought I'd chuck them. can't cause any harm. I'm live just outside Mold in a village called Nercwys. today's update. 1. slabs laid (staggered). rebar drilled into foundation and through holes. 2. walls finished and concrete poured. 3. oak frame for front and slab pour erected and fixed (freestanding) you've got me worried about the movement in the oak now! maybe this wasn't the best idea...
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Post by diggerjones on Sept 8, 2016 18:58:01 GMT
I'm a builder so look at it differently to diy folk.If you look at a half timbered house they tend to be a bit wonkie. I wouldn't worry about it, it will be fine.
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Post by lal5000 on Sept 8, 2016 19:41:28 GMT
I'm a builder so look at it differently to diy folk.If you look at a half timbered house they tend to be a bit wonkie. I wouldn't worry about it, it will be fine. thanks for the vote of confidence! fingers crossed...
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Post by bry on Sept 8, 2016 22:05:02 GMT
The worst that's going to happen is it might crack your pointing on your slabs...
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Post by oblertone on Sept 9, 2016 9:58:34 GMT
Looks good to me; I'd be more worried about falling off the step whilst cider-affected than a few cracks !
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Post by lal5000 on Sept 9, 2016 11:08:03 GMT
haha. that's good to hear. The whole patio is a bit of a minefield of hazards, especially for the intoxicated!
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Post by bry on Sept 9, 2016 11:48:51 GMT
Didn't notice you'd added more timber, f**k me when ze Germans start bombing us again you'll have a bomb shelter as well as a pizza oven
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Post by lal5000 on Sept 9, 2016 13:30:45 GMT
I have a special place in my heart for oak sleepers! That's it now though. I promise.
Anyone have any experience of woodfire gourmet modular ovens.
They seem competitive and have the chimney in the transition, which i would like.
Id prefer a fire brick dome really dont want to mess it all up.
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Post by bry on Sept 9, 2016 14:41:03 GMT
Don't get me wrong the oaks nice just think it's funny you were worried about its structural integrity when it could take a direct hit from a tomahawk missile and probably still be standing. I think almost anyone could build a brick dome as long as they spend plenty of time watching some videos and looking at photos to get the jist and then take their time doing it
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Post by lal5000 on Sept 9, 2016 18:04:35 GMT
update for today. 1. fixed shuttering for pour and set rebar. all ready for the pour in the morning. going 120mm concrete. then support day will top off 80mm vermicrete at 8:1
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Post by albacore on Sept 9, 2016 19:46:54 GMT
Nice looking build so far - and a joy to see proper sized pictures in the page body! If only all posts were like this, instead of the little thumbnails. Perhaps we need an updated picture posting tutorial?
I used the Wood Fired Gourmet modular and I'm pretty pleased with it. The only big mistake I made was to not put enough insulation under the floor. I used Thermalite blocks, which I am convinced are a poor substitute for proper high temperature insulation board.
Lance
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Post by lal5000 on Sept 9, 2016 20:34:23 GMT
Thanks for your comments.
I just added the pictures in tapatalk. It was very easy compared to other forums where you can only add pictures via third party sharing sites.
Ah good to hear you used WFG and have had a good experience.
I am going all out on the insulation. 80mm vermicrete underneath then high temp board.
Does anyone have experience of using the micro porous elite board from kiln linings. Its expensive but seems to be a bit more stable than cal sil.
I was thinking of using 50mm MPE board underneath the hearth so that should be plenty although expensive.
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