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Post by h12rpo on Oct 7, 2012 19:38:29 GMT
Screwfix got em cheap mate
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Post by turkey on Oct 7, 2012 21:04:53 GMT
if you need one? I managed the complete build without one, just used the miter saw for all my cuts. Would have been handy tho but not essential.
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Post by spinal on Oct 7, 2012 22:18:11 GMT
Ended up buying one from Wickes - screwfix were £6 cheaper (on a £20/£26 item, so quite a %age) but didn't have it in stock near me according to their site.
Didn't do much today, got another ring up (picture tomorrow as I'm KO) but that's about it.
My mitre saw is too small to be relied on alone, it barely gets halfway through a brick. I then use a bolster to cut the brick in half, a hatchet to remove any large chunks and finally the grinding disk to smooth it and get a nice edge.
Time consuming... but worth it! M.
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Post by h12rpo on Oct 7, 2012 22:33:45 GMT
Yeah but what size discs did u get for the mItre saw ..... ive got one but it has a /30mm centre
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Post by spinal on Oct 8, 2012 6:45:55 GMT
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Post by petec on Oct 8, 2012 9:41:16 GMT
Hi
where did you get your mitre saw ?
I'm looking around for something to do the tapers on the higher chains, but not sure what to buy yet - so much choice and I want best cost/usefulness ratio as I wont be using for much after the build is done.
cheers Pete
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Post by spinal on Oct 8, 2012 9:52:59 GMT
Image as promised The mitre saw was bought from.... B&Q or Homebase a few years ago... a good few years ago when I was doing some wood-cutting. Hadn't used it much. I may need to buy another one as this one is starting to falter... trying to locate the same model and I'm not finding it... so need to do some digging! M.
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Post by cannyfradock on Oct 8, 2012 17:33:22 GMT
Spinal
Great to see you are at "mid dome". Like the gazebo.....I think something like that is a must with our dismal climate.
All the best with the rest of your build.
Terry
p.s......refreshed the sourdough tonight.....I'm a bakin tomorrow.
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Post by bookemdanno on Oct 8, 2012 19:36:11 GMT
B&Q do alright out of us lot, don't they!
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Post by spinal on Oct 13, 2012 17:43:53 GMT
Saturday night, and it's a quick update as I have plans... swmbo lent a hand today; and as a geologist, she's good with a diamond saw We got a lot done, and I'm guessing that it's about 1 row away from the keystone! (a big keystone) View from the front Closeup of a side (ignore the brick sticking out, it's just there to hold the other under compression while they set. It will be removed, recut and set last on that row) Arch reinforcement on one side (essentially the outer coating of refractory, just put early so I could build onto the arch) Transition closeup before mortaring. The mix that works best for mortaring bricks (for me) is: 1sand:1fireclay:1grog(medium):1grog(fine):1CAC This mix stays workable for about 45 minutes, giving me plenty of time to put the bricks in. After 45 minutes, it's consistency becomes that of putty/play-doh, meaning I can massage it into grooves as necessary (and yes, I should be using gloves) . It stays at the play-doh stage for a further 45 minutes to an hour or so, effectively meaning that from mixing, I have 1.5 hours to use it - so plenty of time! I mix about 5litres at a time (using a 1l measuring jug and a bucket). Each mix did half a ring for the lower rings, and the last ring I did today was entirely on a bucket-load of mortar. For the shroud/coating outside, I will use (and used for the reinforcement): 1grog(coarse):1grog(medium):1grog(fine):1fireclay:1CAC The annoying part (ironically) is I'm using very little material... I ordered 8 bags of cement, and with the free bucket I got am still on my first bag! Same for the fireclay (but am on my 2nd bag of grog). I must say, I love the CAC - so much better to work with than portland! By the time I'm done with a ring, and I move the bricks over for the next ring (while she cuts ) it's set enough that I can start working on the ring above. Should be totally cured in 3 days as well, so hopefully Wednesday I can start with my first fires! Tomorrow I'm hoping to finish the inner dome, get the front/chimney transition sorted and put about 1" of refractory around it to add to the thermal mass (and maybe give it some strength...who knows). This will be done as a slurry from the top, and then pushed into any gaps - and then shaped as it hardens. With some luck, I may even have time to put the blanket/chicken mesh (if not, I'll do that in the evening in the week - can't cut bricks in the evening as my neighbours will freak, but I can definitely put some quiet blanket up ) M.
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Post by spinal on Oct 15, 2012 10:38:02 GMT
Yesterday went a little slower than I had hoped - that last ring of bricks was a pain! Each brick had to be cut and ground individually to weird and contorted angles... oh and I didn't have help until the afternoon.... oh well! Hopefully tonight I'll get the front arch sorted, and then tomorrow night the middle arch/flue. Keystone goes in (I'm not proud of the keystone, I used two bricks back to back and cut them repeatedly until they fit, then flared them to make the keystone): Slurry shroud now on, and curing. This is about 3/4" - 1" thick and contains no sand (grog:fireclay:CAC in 3:1:1) The front bricks are held in by devil's porridge (vermicrete) with a bit or mortar on the top until I decide how to do the front... leaning towards a slab of granite tbh! M.
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Post by spinal on Oct 19, 2012 15:18:28 GMT
MAKE THE RAIN STOP!!!
I took the day off to get some work done, and have barely been able to put 6 bricks... the front arch is in, and half the flue/thermal break transition thing... but I can't proceed as I made a hole in the gazebo for the chimney pipe... and not it's raining in... sigh...
Put a bucket for the water for now, but I REALLY need the raiin to stop!
M.
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Post by minesamojito on Oct 19, 2012 15:45:34 GMT
Looks like it's going really well, going to be a stunning oven. Cheers Marcus
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Post by bookemdanno on Oct 19, 2012 16:30:40 GMT
The weather is soooo frustrating innit Spinal.
I drove the wife mad with my rants about Met Office! I had a Gaz up, but was too close to a wall, so the water pooled on the roof and then a couple of buckets full would suddenly shoot out as the Gaz gave in and pulled back from the frame! I ended up rigging up some old guttering!
Why no get some Frog Tape and you can cover up the hole, dude?
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Post by spinal on Oct 19, 2012 21:17:28 GMT
I did think of that - but don't have any tape (and am WAY too lazy to drive into town on a day off ) On the bright side, my pizza peel got delivered today! The delivery chap was puzzled as why I had a very large, very flat parcel from Italy. A close friend bought it for me and shipped it over as a present, but I've realised that she bought it from somewhere that ships to the UK directly... I can vouch for the quality. I just did the first oiling of the wood today, and will re-oil it tomorrow to get it ready. Link is here if anyone's interested in tools. Not the cheapest, but they are good (or at least, the peel I got it good ) www.lillycodroipo.comM.
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