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Post by starseeker on Apr 27, 2014 16:19:53 GMT
I have been using a Bernito oven for the last couple years,but after much deliberation i have decided to carry out a Kilnlinings Veneto build.I do not have that much room to carry out the build so it is a bit tight for working space but it is now full speed ahead! Once i got started by the end of the weekend i had it all dug out and footings down,thats why there is no pictures as i had my head down and forgot. I decided to use 225 x 100 tantalised timber for the stand for a more sympathetic look,with pre-stressed lintels with celcon blocks for my insulation layer, and by the following weekend i had it up,
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Post by starseeker on Apr 27, 2014 16:27:23 GMT
After getting the base up i ordered the superior veneto kit so i had all my insulation etc and three days later it was all out side my front door ready to be carried through the house as i have no rear access,over the next couple of days i fitted the silicate board which i covered with foil and i got the hearth bricks laid,
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Post by starseeker on Apr 27, 2014 16:32:07 GMT
I let the hearth cure for a couple of days and then it was time for me and my mate to give ourselves a hernia and get the oven in place,this only took about a hour in which i thought we had definitely earnt a beer,
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Post by starseeker on Apr 27, 2014 16:43:04 GMT
Next job was to make up a arch form and get the arch built, this i set out on the floor first to get the profile, I forgot to add that i also refractory mortared any gaps etc inside the oven which my other half found quite funny for some reason
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Post by starseeker on Apr 27, 2014 16:49:02 GMT
well the arch is finished and i am pretty happy with it, Next up is to get the insulated blanket fitted,then cover with foil and get the mesh on,this went fairly well even though the foil kept threatening to blow away Attachment Deleted
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Post by starseeker on Apr 27, 2014 17:09:02 GMT
Next up was to fit the quarry tiles around the base of the oven, i then proceeded to apply four x 25kg bags of refractory render and let that cure for a couple of days,i then gave the oven a coat of sand,lime,cement render to Finnish it off, after that had cured for a few days i gave the whole oven and base two coats of Thompsons water seal to help keep the dreaded water out.
I will try to put some pictures up tomorrow as it seems that i have exceeded the limit for today,
cheers,
Vince.
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Post by starseeker on Apr 28, 2014 20:47:37 GMT
Sorry guys, it seems that the forum has exceeded its limit for uploading pictures at the minute so i will wait until this is sorted out and then post the remainder.
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Post by starseeker on May 3, 2014 19:58:25 GMT
Nearly finished
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Post by starseeker on May 3, 2014 20:11:17 GMT
Apart from fitting a rain cap and putting a edging strip around the edge of the tiles the oven is completed,i really enjoyed the process and i am really happy with the completed article. The weekend that i finished it i had a go at making some ciabata with a slow cooked lamb tangine,i burnt the bread on the bottom but apart from that for my first time with this oven i was really chuffed with the end result, Sorry i have managed to post two identical pictures !
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Post by starseeker on May 3, 2014 20:16:26 GMT
Here is the side view and one of my burnt bread!
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Post by cocobongo on May 9, 2014 13:10:15 GMT
Nice oven starseeker, I've just joined this forum and am building the exact same oven as you. This thread and your pics have been extremely helpful. Quick question, did you leave all the hearth bricks down that ended up on the outside of the oven after you erected the dome and then did you simply lay your quarry tiles over the hearth bricks? Better luck next time with the bread!
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Post by starseeker on May 10, 2014 19:45:25 GMT
Hi Cocobongo,
Yes i did exactly that,i also layed the quarry tiles before putting any render on the dome so the render would cover the edges of the tiles.
These are great ovens and i am really pleased with it! If you can it would be good to see some pics of yours ,
Cheers,
Vince.
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Post by cocobongo on Jun 8, 2014 20:49:52 GMT
Hi Cocobongo, Yes i did exactly that,i also layed the quarry tiles before putting any render on the dome so the render would cover the edges of the tiles. These are great ovens and i am really pleased with it! If you can it would be good to see some pics of yours , Cheers, Vince. Vince My posts are in the introductions bit elsewhere on the board, maybe they should be in this section but I just posted in there and then kind of carried on there, not that I've made that many posts! ukwoodfiredovenforum.proboards.com/thread/1830/greetings-sunny-manchester Good point you make about laying the quarry tiles first, which will be my next step along with building my arch. I like your horizontal timbers, they look like they worked out bang on for the depth of your hearth bricks, nice move - I've still got to figure out how I'm going to finish mine off at that point. Did you put any fibre board or anything between the dome and the arch brickwork? I've read somewhere but can't remember where, that it would be a good idea to help prevent any cracking between the dome and arch. You didn't hang around building yours did you....how long from start to finish? Cheers Coco
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Post by starseeker on Jul 9, 2016 17:08:48 GMT
Well it has been a while since i finished my oven in this thread and all in all i am very pleased with it,but what i have found is that after a three or four hour cooking session the outside of the oven gets very warm,some would say hot.For normal use this is fine,but i would like to use the retained heat in the oven for slow cooking etc the next day,and at the moment approx 14 hours after having the oven at 300c ,the internal temp is about 90c,.
So what i was thinking of doing is adding a vermicrete coating to my outside render coat and then another coat of finishing render to help heat retention,do you good people think this will do the trick or could this mess my oven up?
Cheers everybody
Vince
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Post by downunderdave on Jul 9, 2016 22:58:39 GMT
Well it has been a while since i finished my oven in this thread and all in all i am very pleased with it,but what i have found is that after a three or four hour cooking session the outside of the oven gets very warm,some would say hot.For normal use this is fine,but i would like to use the retained heat in the oven for slow cooking etc the next day,and at the moment approx 14 hours after having the oven at 300c ,the internal temp is about 90c,. So what i was thinking of doing is adding a vermicrete coating to my outside render coat and then another coat of finishing render to help heat retention,do you good people think this will do the trick or could this mess my oven up? Cheers everybody Vince After a few hours of firing your oven exterior should only be cosy warm. If it is not then there are two reasons. Firstly the insulation maybe moist, water is a good conductor and reduces the insulating capacity of the insulating layer. Perhaps your oven has got water inside it from rain via the uncovered flue pipe. The remedy is to fire the oven gently (all day at least). If you go at it too hard steam pressure can crack your outer shell so if you see steam, back off. Secondly you may not have enough insulation. Normally 2" of blanket is required if you only have one then you could add a vermicrete or perlcrete layer as you suggested, but make it fairly lean (10:1 is normal), because the more cement you add the more you reduce its insulating capacity. Another reason your oven will be losing heat is that your floor bricks are extending beyond the base of the dome. The whole oven should really be encapsulated in insulation. Unfortunately altering this would be quite difficult at this stage and probably not worth it. Your oven has its flue inside the oven chamber which, while giving you some extra oven space, does not circulate the fire as well as one that has the flue independent of the oven chamber because the flame wants to rush to the flue pipe. More importantly it creates problems if you are baking or roasting, because you will lose a lot of heat up the flue as soon as you open the door. Some ovens of this configuration have a flue gate at the base of the pipe that can be closed to hold in the heat. It appears yours does not. Instead of fitting a rain cap you could use an inverted terracotta flower saucer on top of the flue pipe to close it off. Regarding your burnt bread bottoms you can simply place your loaves on a baking tray. This takes the sting out of the floor and also makes cleaning the ash of the floor first uneccessary.
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