First time build

[cannyfradock]

James

What a brilliant build.....and thank-you for sharing your stage pics with us. I love the bricks you've used on the arch. They will definitely showcase your finished oven (it's sometimes a shame that people who come to your pizza evenings don't realise how much work has gone into the bits that they don't see)

When I've used a finish coat of K-Rend I have trowelled it on using a plasters trowel as even as I can get it by hand, then waited for it to crust up a little....perhaps an hour or so depending on the weather...then gone over the whole dome with a sponge. The sponge will take off any ridges left from the trowel and leave a nice even sandy finish.

Terry

[chas]

Same as Terry with the light sponging for the finish coat...
This wouldn't apply to you with your rendering skills, but I found that on the dome a small 'continental' ie rounded-point trowel worked best for me - easier to manage the small amounts applied at a time, and easier to use over the curved surface.
Love the rain-shedding back corners!

Chas

[smithjames0]

A long time since an update...

I used k-rend ivory from Travis perkins I used six bags, two were used on the dome.

The render is texture coat silicone FT ivory 726960 25kg £9.22 + VAT each

Putting it on


Scratching it back


Finished! minus the chimney pot


Not quite.... The coat on the dome was a little thin, and in two places I went through   so I will re-render it.

Anyway on with using it

Shows the chimney works


Bread, didn't taste that good (Recipe from Wood-fired oven cookbook, Holly and David Jones) 


Upside down rhubarb cake (Recipe from Wood-fired oven cookbook, Holly and David Jones)



Pizza (Pizza base recipe from Wood-fired Pizza oven John Pellicano)

[5leafclover]

I love the way the detailed terracotta front seems to emerge from the rendered body. I'm also inspired by your lined hearth. Were the clay tiles pricey?

Also, do you plan to paint the rendered surfaces? I will have to tackle this at some point, so I'm trying to get a better view of costs.

[smithjames0]

I have recorded the cost for each item, I will post it as soon as I have it in a good format. 

When I used the oven last Tuesday I took temperature reading around the oven both inside and out using an IR thermometer.

Hearth temperature just after I moved the fire 416.5℃  
Temperature on the underneath of the hearth 30℃

Temperature inside the dome at the top 618℃
Temperature inside the dome on the side opposite to the fire 456℃
Temperature of the dome skin (Was in the shade but the sun had been on it a little earlier) 29℃

Inner arch 433℃

Top of the chimney pot 39℃

Hearth tiles in the entrance 125℃

I finished using the oven about 17:00 I took some more temperature readings using the thermometer on the oven door.

That evening
21:00 200℃
23:30 175℃    8℃ outside

Next day 
08:00  125℃   11℃ outside
23:00  75℃     9℃   outside

Day after
08:00  70℃     7℃  Outside
18:30  50℃     13℃  Outside

The wooden door needs attention ........


James

[smithjames0]

The cost of the project is £1320 not including any tools i bought, my total waste was £25 I don't think this was bad. A break down of the cost below,

.		Total ex	Total Inc
Jewsons		£395.47	£474.56
Whitehursts		£45.28	£54.34
Cheshire		£204.55	£245.46
Electrical		£34.20	£41.04
Kilnlinings		£194.86	£233.83
Travis Perkins		£212.66	£255.19
Tools		£127.95	£153.54
Clas Ohlson		£13.32	£15.98
Total		£1,214.97	£1,473.95
Total - Tools		£1,087.02	£1,320.41

Waste

Waste
	Quantity	Price per unit	Sub Total	Discount	Total	Total inc VAT
Blocks 440x215x100mm	6	0.76	4.55		4.55	5.46
Reinforcing Bar High Tensile Steel	1	7.10	7.10	0	7.10	8.52
Building Sand	2	3.75	7.50	39.01%	4.57	5.49
K Rend 11mm angle bead	1	5.18	5.18	0	5.18	6.22
					£21.41	£25.69

Jewsons

.	Quantity	Price per unit	Sub Total	Discount	Total	Total inc VAT
Gravel	27	£3.75	£101.25	40.00%	£60.75	£72.90
Sharp sand	7	£3.75	£26.25	39.01%	£16.01	£19.21
Building Sand	25	£3.75	£93.75	39.01%	£57.18	£68.61
Cement	3	£4.00	£12.00		£12.00	£14.40
Cement	7	£2.95	£20.65		£20.65	£24.78
Celcon Block (Airated)	19	£1.18	£22.42		£22.42	£26.90
Blocks 440x215x100mm	58	£0.76	£44.02		£44.02	£52.83
Steel Fabric Reinforcement Mesh	1	£21.22	£21.22		£21.22	£25.46
Plasticiser	1	£9.79	£9.79		£9.79	£11.75
Lintel 140x100x1500mm	2	£17.65	£35.30		£35.30	£42.36
Reinforcing Bar High Tensile Steel	5	£7.10	£35.50		£35.50	£42.60
Sheet of Ply 2440x1220x12	1	£18.36	£18.36		£18.36	£22.03
Lime	1	£17.06	£17.06	39.68%	£10.29	£12.35
Vermiculite	2	£15.99	£31.98		£31.98	£38.38
Total			£489.55		£395.47
Total inc VAT			£587.46		£474.56

Cheshire Demolition

.	Quantity	Price per unit	Total	Total inc VAT
Clay Bricks ordered 160 got 170	160	£0.45	£72.00	£86.40
Clay Bricks	12	£0.45	£5.40	£6.48
6x6 Quary Tiles	23	£1.1955	£27.50	£33.00
Delivery	1	£25.00	£25.00	£30.00
9x9 tiles	24	£1.6665	£40.00	£48.00
Handles	2	£8.33	£16.66	£19.99
9x9 tiles	12	£1.50	£18.00	£21.60
Total			£204.55
Total inc VAT			£245.46

Electrical bits for lots of different places

.	Quantity	Price per unit	Total	Total inc VAT
20mm Glands	1	£3.11	£3.11	£3.73
Outdoor double socket	1	£17.18	£17.18	£20.62
3 Core 2.5mm Armard Cable	13	£1.07	£13.91	£16.69
			£0.00
			£0.00
Total			£34.20
Total inc VAT			£41.04

Klinlinings

.	Quantity	Price per unit	Sub Total	Discount	Total	Total inc VAT
Fire Clay	2	£14.99	£29.98	10.00%	£29.88	£35.86
LBP HT Blanket 1200GD 3.66m - 610 x 50mm density 128kg	2	£59.99	£119.98	10.00%	£109.98	£131.98
Shipping	1	£55.00	£55.00		£55.00	£66.00
					£0.00
					£0.00
Total					£194.86
Total inc VAT					£233.83

Travis Perkins

.	Quantity	Price per unit	Sub Total	Discount	Total	Total inc VAT
Chimmeny Pot 300mm roll top	1	£37.06	£37.06		£37.06	£44.47
K Rend 11mm angle bead	5	£5.18	£25.90		£25.90	£31.08
K Rend HP base coat	6	£11.12	£66.72		£66.72	£80.06
K Rend texture coat silicone FT Ivory	6	£9.22	£55.32		£55.32	£66.38
K Rend texture coat silicone FT Ivory	3	£9.22	£27.66		£27.66	£33.19
Total			£129.68		£212.66
Total inc VAT			£155.62		£255.19

Clas Ohlson

.	Quantity	Price per unit	Total	Total inc VAT
Flue Gas Thermometer	1	£9.16	£9.16	£10.99
Shipping	1	£4.16	£4.16	£4.99
			£0.00	£0.00
			£0.00	£0.00
			£0.00	£0.00
Total			£13.32
Total inc VAT			£15.98

New tools not included in the cost of the project

.	Quantity	Price per unit	Total	Total inc VAT
600mm Sash Clamp	1	£9.80	£9.80	£11.76
Stanley knife	1	£14.99	£14.99	£17.99
Spring clamp	2	£1.55	£3.10	£3.72
Flexi tub	1	£5.67	£5.67	£6.80
Respirator 10 PK	1	£9.12	£9.12	£10.94
Safety Goggles	1	£7.83	£7.83	£9.40
9" Grinder Hitachi	1	£70.00	£70.00	£84.00
Sanding disks	1	£5.12	£5.12	£6.14
Linseed Oil	1	£2.32	£2.32	£2.78
			£127.95	£153.54

James

[paul]

That's not a bad price considering what you have achieved. I never kept a tally on the price of my oven as it could have been used as evidence for the other half to spend an equivalent amount on bags and shoes( yes she hoards) so mine cost £50 all in.....ahhhem

Just for info try and aim between 300 and 350 in the cooking area as this is what most Italians aim for in traditional ovens.


Very nice job and all round to yours for Pizza and beer then....

[chas]

A fine build and a useful resource for costing, James.

Chas

[purrcat]

It looks great.

Price wise, you've done really well. I haven't bothered too much with the price because I bought the oven as a kit and deliberately chose bricks for the base which were of better quality than basic ones. Certainly, mine cost a lot more than that!

I love the look of the chimney it contrasts beautifully with the light colour of the K-rend.

We have the same Holly and David Jones cook book - I get the feeling that you are not especially impressed with the results - is that your overall feeling?

[smithjames0]

I thought I would post an update of how the oven is getting on after a few years of use.

First to the outside....

The dome has a few hairline cracks in it, the render is three layers thick so I don't think any water would have got in, but it is on the 'to do' list to re-render.




The tiles round the outside have suffered from the frost almost all of the outer tiles have cracked, I have the replacement tiles I just need some spare to fit them. This needs to be done prior to rendering.



And I need to do some pointing



The inside...

I had a piece of the dome fall out the other day, it's a filler piece above the inner door on the inside. I have already started to clean the brickwork read to refit, I just need time to do it. 





Apart from that its been great, and well used 





Regards

[fujiwara]

Looks good. Your project is very hard for me. I build my house from wood.

[richardo]

Jun 1, 2015 8:36:42 GMT oblertone said:

You've probably completed the floor by now but a good rule when laying tiles is to do all the complete tiles first, then cut the nadgery bits; it gives you something to work from. Looking good, keep the pics coming.

[richardo]

Hi can I ask did you just lay your tiles on the brick or cement them down. Also have the last a long time

[oblertone]

Jun 11, 2021 20:48:50 GMT richardo said:

Hi can I ask did you just lay your tiles on the brick or cement them down. Also have the last a long time

I laid mine on a bed of waterproof tile cement; sadly the frost got to them and the coloured 'face' pinged off ! Frost resistant tiles are available and highly recommend 👍🏾