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Post by gazzer1uk on Aug 5, 2016 20:53:32 GMT
Hi folks,
I've ended up here much faster and rather poorly prepared than I expected!
Sat out my front door is a 100 cm wood Pizza oven, the sort often seen on Ebay which is where it came from. I have been hankering after one of these for about a year post a fabulous holiday in Italy, the romance of it kind of caught us up..... Anyhow, it was my birthday and it came up on Ebay at about half of the price I have seen the others going, so..... I bought it.
I must admit, its bigger in real life than I expected and I was somewhat amused about the weight.... 450kg...... about 4 times what I expected!!
This has led to several issues, the patio..... will it support such weight, and the base and oven will be wider and taller than I thought, taking up more room than I expected, and also possibly the design I was thinking, won't be viable.....
However the first issue, is...... how to move it from the front door? In truth I doubt anyone will nick it, and if they do remove by hand, I'm not arguing with them lol......
So my son and I intend to build a small ramp, use a work pump truck and get it onto the old shed concrete base (its on a pallet) and it can sit there until the base is built.
I really think I need a proper bricklayer who can look at the patio (its slabbed and and think as its been here 20 odd years, its all nice and settled, and properly constructed) and advise if its going to take the weight, and then build a suitable strong base..
Then its time to move the beggar....... I am up for any and all ideas, we are going to have to move it round the back of the house, up a short single step, and a sensible second step, and then up to the base height to be placed. I am thinking an engine hoist gantry style might be needed.
I will I am sure have created thoughts of " pillock" in mind, with the speed of acquisition and slight lack of planning, but sometimes that's just the way life happens eh?
Then look forward on finding out how to actually make use of it, care for it and the recipes etc. So if anyone knows a good bricklayer/pizza one base builder in South Warwickshire, let me know.......!!
Gaz
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Post by chas on Aug 6, 2016 9:10:53 GMT
Hi folks, I've ended up here much faster and rather poorly prepared than I expected! Sat out my front door is a 100 cm wood Pizza oven, the sort often seen on Ebay which is where it came from. I must admit, its bigger in real life than I expected and I was somewhat amused about the weight.... 450kg...... about 4 times what I expected!! This has led to several issues, the patio..... will it support such weight, and the base and oven will be wider and taller than I thought, taking up more room than I expected, and also possibly the design I was thinking, won't be viable..... Hi Gaz, and welcome. You seem to be unfazed by the practical issues of moving the thing, so I'll stick to a couple of encouraging ideas born of experience: Mine is likely to weigh in at much the same and is built over an existing slabbed patio - and though at the time I laid the slabs, a WFO wasn't really on the radar, it does have 4" of concrete under it. If yours is anything like that you should be ok. When designing the plinth to sit it on, do give some 'toe room' ie inset the base. It'll look less bulky and be more comfortable to work at. Chas |
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Post by barnsleybrewer on Aug 6, 2016 15:33:10 GMT
Can anyone recommend these pre built ones?
I was looking at some that a guy on eBay sells who's based in Chesterfield.
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Post by barnsleybrewer on Aug 11, 2016 21:32:21 GMT
Bump
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Post by kstronach on Aug 13, 2016 20:50:35 GMT
I must admit, its bigger in real life than I expected and I was somewhat amused about the weight.... 450kg...... about 4 times what I expected!! This has led to several issues, the patio..... will it support such weight, and the base and oven will be wider and taller than I thought, taking up more room than I expected, and also possibly the design I was thinking, won't be viable..... I really think I need a proper bricklayer who can look at the patio (its slabbed and and think as its been here 20 odd years, its all nice and settled, and properly constructed) and advise if its going to take the weight, and then build a suitable strong base.. You're patio will be fine mate if it's as you say it is. When you build your base over the flags they are going to spread the weight a fair bit aswell. i built mine on an existing patio, a fairly newly laid one aswell, not one with twenty odd years of bedding in! and it's been fine no sign at all of any movement or cracking. also we like pictures of stuff! keith |
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Post by gazzer1uk on Aug 14, 2016 18:05:12 GMT
Thanks for the comments guys!! So we managed the first moving from the front door to the temporary resting place on the now moved shed base which was very much over engineered in the first place. My goodness........ I am lucky to have an incredibly strong son who works installing professional elite gym equipment which is pretty damn heavy..... It was an immense struggle and I even ended up using my car jack but with his pallet truck, strength, bloody mindedness and our brains..... we got it to where it needed to be.... unfortunately some very slight damage the very edges of the concrete base that the oven is built on, a few corners have some chunks off them, but the oven itself is absolutely fine...... We do think though that the original location is not going to be possible, its too big, so that will mean building a base on the lower part of the patio, so not so much lifting involved....... Cheers, Gaz     |
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Post by gazzer1uk on Apr 23, 2017 16:46:02 GMT
So that being an August last year post then!!!!! Things didn't progress much at all until a few months later, when we finalised location..... Our kitchen door leads to a patio area, then down to a lower patio area, that is going to be decked out in the "near" future...... After consideration of practicality and location, smoke etc, its going out and down to the right, beyond the existing patio area, and then when the decking is done, it will be formed around the base... So I dug a 1400x 2000 square trench about 8 inches deep..... I then spent time smashing hardcore into it!!! I had a lot of concrete and broken bricks so there is now about a 3 inch layer of hardcore, compressed and a one inch layer of stones leaving appx 4 inches of shuttering ready for the concrete. I also found some steel reinforcement which I cut to fit, and will do so when pouring the concrete... which is now all that is left for the slab.... So, with some luck, next week I will pour concrete and level off, and the week after, my father in law and ex brick layer of some repute, will create the base on top of the slab..... So a couple of questions, I'm thinking I will buy ready to use concrete, i.e. just add water and mix, is there any brand that is good for this, or should I not do this and use the age old sand and cement trick? I'll be mixing with some stones I have left, so ought be a substantial base.. When the base is complete and we have the oven lifted and fitted (a chapter all on its' own I feel), we will be rendering the brick work to maintain that loose Mediterranean feel, and then will wish to paint the Oven and rendering, is there a special rendering paint needed, given the oven might get quite warm/hot on the outside? Look forward to thoughts and guidance....... Cheers, Gaz   |
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Post by gazzer1uk on Apr 28, 2017 18:24:09 GMT
Cement mixer is here, as are 10 bags of mastercrete...... game on tomorrow!!!
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Post by gazzer1uk on Apr 30, 2017 20:13:53 GMT
So with decent weather, two trips to Homebase and BPS, on the front drive was 250kg of Cement and 325kg of sharp sand, all moved to the back garden by yours truly!! I started at 11:30 and finished just about 3:30, with 1/4 ton of stones for aggregate........ I think it was too wet in truth, but so far, so good, its drying off, seems quite firm, hopefully will get another day or so of decent dry weather...... but I'll be leaving it a while before laying the bricks....... fingers crossed!!!    |
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Post by gazzer1uk on May 21, 2017 10:54:23 GMT
Well, Most certainly getting there, my 74 year old father in law has lost neither talent or speed!! A slightly mixed weather day, but started at 8:30 and finished at 2:30!!! 14 courses, now that sounds high but there is decking to be done that will encircle the base..... Got a friend who has a friend that runs a specialist heavy lifting company, so coming round Monday night to work out how to move and lift the oven..... this could be in place by early June!!! Where's the best place to get an extended chimney breast, value for money wise? We're backing on to the neighbours so want a reasonable height to get the smoke away from regardless of the wind direction..... any thoughts appreciated.... I am getting very excited !!!    |
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Post by oblertone on May 22, 2017 17:38:37 GMT
I'm not sure if you actually meant chimney breast or flue, but going on the later remarks it's probably a flue you need. Most twin-wall comes in 1m lengths, and there is plenty on eBay (new & used) but make sure it's nearby as no-one will post this stuff.
ps - I once laboured for my very retired great uncle; it nearly killed me.
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Post by gazzer1uk on May 29, 2017 22:05:46 GMT
Well...... Would have been much better if it hadn't rained, but the boys did a brill job... Essentially built a plywood road way to bring the oven round the house on a pallet truck... Then crafted to raised platforms out of pallets and plywood.... used a gantry, block and tackle, and once raised, pushed the gantry back over the oven, and rested down... hardest bit was aligning top to brick base, and then Voila..... all sorted.... Now being left to dry before the first internal "drying out" small fire will be lit.... Pretty sure I will get a flue as Obltertone mentioned, it ought help dissipate the smoke a bit. Yes it is raised quite hight but once the decking is built up around it, I think it will turn out to be the perfect height... all we need to do now is choose the paint colour for the dome, as the white and the damage makes it look horrid, and will then need to find the nice pizza recipes!!!!      |
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Post by dunlap on Jun 7, 2017 12:59:55 GMT
This may have been better for lifting Only 1 meter wide   |
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