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Post by greensheepuk on Jul 8, 2012 17:17:58 GMT
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Post by Fat Bob on Jul 8, 2012 18:07:22 GMT
Great thinking outa the box!
Apart from our faithful conventional WFO.
We have two non conventional WFO's a regular gas oven converted to wood. Very economical for everything a normal oven will do (cook a loaf with twigs) and a pizza oven with zero heat retention, the pizza cooks in the flue of the fire, again exceedingly economical a pizza will cook on a coupla kindling sticks and gives an increased woodsmoke flavour. It is ideal if you just want to cook a few pizzas and it is ready to work in minutes.
Your WFO certainly looks the part - keep up the good work and enjoy!
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Post by greensheepuk on Jul 8, 2012 20:02:33 GMT
Thanks Bob,
Long term I'll absolutely be building my own 'traditional' brick oven, but right now this is as close as I can get, with budget/space restrictions.
Clearly with this oven I'll have relatively low thermal mass and low levels of insulation to deal with in addition to the restricted space and close proximity of food to fire but I'll certainly make the most of it and post some results as soon as I can.
I'm also considering using the void under the oven floor as a second fire box to enable the main BBQ chamber to also be used as a smoker. I like smoked meat/fish but have never done it myself so will have to read further into this before giving it a go.
JK.
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Post by Fat Bob on Jul 8, 2012 22:23:37 GMT
Your oven will work fine though you will need to keep an eye on it as you'll need to keep the fire ticking over.
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Post by conic on Jul 8, 2012 23:54:28 GMT
Great Oven JK, this will work ok. My neigbour is 90 next month and he said that during the WW2 he was an RAF cook and they also cut the drum as you have and lay about 30 of them it on some slabs then cover them with soil and bake about 800 loaf of bread every day for the soldiers.
Conic
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Post by cannyfradock on Jul 9, 2012 8:59:25 GMT
Hello JK......welcome aboard. I love the design.....please let us know how it performs. We've had a few oil drum oven builds on this and our old forum, although apart from the oil drum itself the designs have been quite different. I know Marcus (minesamojito) has had great success with his oil drum design.. countrywoodsmoke.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/day-4/ I like the way you have lined the inside with what looks like 1" fire-bricks. Stood on end I'm sure it would make a good Tandoor oven. Terry
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Post by greensheepuk on Jul 9, 2012 19:37:55 GMT
Thanks, I'll certainly keep the thread up to date with progress and performance. All the bricks are 1", my early designs were going to include an option to use as a tandor but once I got a grasp of how much this thing would weigh and how much structural support the drum would need, the idea of rotating it went straight out of the window! Limited progress today due to lack of time but I have started to shape the ceramic insulation and have begun forming the steel cladding for the bulkhead insulation (no photo of that yet). JK.
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Post by minesamojito on Jul 10, 2012 4:51:07 GMT
That's brilliant, love the bricks lining the internal, this is going to work great! Look forward to seeing your oven in use, keep us all supplied with lots of pics please Cheers Marcus
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Post by greensheepuk on Jul 10, 2012 21:54:50 GMT
Thanks Marcus, I'm happy to post as much info as I can. Got a good amount done today Formed the steel cladding for the bulkhead, seen here perching on top of the drum: The bulkhead cladding has fold over tabs which i can fix to when the full outer cladding is fabricated: Welded grid steel to act as a temprary support for the under shelf insulation, this will be replaced by sheet steel once the oven is performing as it should (which will also allow me to use the void beow the oven as a fire pit for smoking to the main BBQ chamber) Full sheet installed: In-fill sheets installed: Pizza door opening was very uneven so this and the previous photos show strengthening to the lower box section and an additional piece of angle iron to the top: Ceramic insulation trimmed to fit between oven supports ready for outer cladding: I'll be insulating the door side of the oven (excluding the door itself!), this will be my next update, hopefully along with the fabrication of the outer shell. JK. EDIT: I'm having a few problems organising my pictures on imageshak, they dont appear in order, so best to ignore their 'next'/'previous' links and just use my forum links if you want to view the images in the proper order, JK.
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Post by cannyfradock on Jul 10, 2012 22:23:38 GMT
Hey JK.....I can see see all your pics in their full glory. What a fascinating build !!!...I'm looking forward to your next installment.
Your fabrication is quite beyond my expertise, but I always love seeing new creations......
Terry
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Post by greensheepuk on Jul 10, 2012 22:47:37 GMT
Thanks Terry,
My fabrication skills come from nothing more than forums like this, youtube videos and just plain having a go, lol, no professional training at any point. So I think this level of skill can be self taught, but admitadly I have built up a stock-pile of tools that would cost a small fortune to gather from scratch.
Anyway, not to sound too idealistic but if this works out then i'll put all of the time that I have and all of the skills that I've gathered into producing a build guide so everyone can have a go at this.
'if this works' lol
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Post by cannyfradock on Jul 10, 2012 23:24:28 GMT
Stop trying to hide your light under a bushell. I'm loving every installment of your build.
Terry
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Post by turkey on Jul 11, 2012 10:41:27 GMT
there is no if especially with your determination, only when its a lovely looking build, and such a nice idea. I really hope it can come off as a 3 in one build , the holy outdoor trinity
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Post by greensheepuk on Jul 11, 2012 21:29:36 GMT
Thanks for the encouragement guys, I appreciate it. So, I only got an hour or so on the project tonight but thought it was still worth a quick update. I'm nearly done forming the front cladding sheet, you can see where I've built out the door opening with a 40mm strip of steel around the sides and top and then marked and formed a steel clad sheet from there with the tabs cut and ready to fold over on the outside like i did with the main bulkhead clad. Then there'll be one final sheet that rolls over the whole thing and gets riveted in place. More to come, JK.
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Post by greensheepuk on Jul 12, 2012 21:19:24 GMT
OK so i didn't get time to work on the project tonight, but I did get the time to tot up the costs involved if anyone's interested:
£12 Oil drum - Ebay - picked up £60 35 fire bricks and 25kg of fire cement 'cash in hand' local £29 2metres of 25mm ceramic insulation - Vitcas (incl delivery) £155 Steel stock - sheet, grid, angle, box section, stainless for grill etc. £133 EBAY! Consisting of: - Infra-red thermometer (1200F) - 2 x thermocouple probes and digital temperature sensors (for roof and shelf) - Pizza peel, oven brush - Hinges, castors, chain - Consumables: drill bits, flap/cutting/grinding disks. welding wire, rivets, stove paint, paint brushes - New tool: Lazy tongue riveter
=£389
Providing this works (fingers crossed) I think thats a pretty good cost for a BBQ/smoker/wood burning brick lined oven. Would be interested in hearing the thoughts of others.
JK.
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