rokdok
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Post by rokdok on May 6, 2014 21:42:42 GMT
Hi Rivergirl, There weren't really any plans for the oak frame each layer is screwed together with Hex head s/s screws- just make sure that the next layer doesn't have overlapping joints. The sleepers are very heavy I got them from here www.ridgefarm-sleepers.co.uk , for the top I got slightly more delicate sleepers from here www.dorsettimber.co.uk, Charlie would probably cut to size for you if you wanted, in fact have a look at his site - he'd probably make what ever you wanted. Welcome , in advance to West Dorset. Pete- I ordered both first and second grade from Liam and it just happened that the second grade ones were white so I just did an alternating pattern. For the outside I'm going to use mainly brick which I'll cut into tiles. We live on the Jurassic coast and there is a great variety of limestone, which we've used to floor our house inside and also the patio is made from it. It's all a mixture of Blue Lias, and various beds of Portland stone and also various beds of Purbeck stone. Virtually all of the stone is either second or or offcuts or surplus which we've picked up form various quarries and got Nigel our (brilliant) stonemason friend to trim and lay for us. I've still got some bits which I'll cut into tiles and use these for the outside as well. Thanks for your comments. Bookmando - I think we all totter on the heads of giants !!! Anyway the last couple of days have been a bit shorter due to school runs, help with revision etc. Started the dome /arch transition- I'm hoping to dovetail the ring to the arch- so far it's working. Heres one from the side. Can someone please tell me if it's ok to put the fire blanket directly onto the firebrick without rendering first ? Won't post until the weekend as work is stopping play. Cheers
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Post by rivergirl on May 9, 2014 15:22:06 GMT
Close to lyme. , well trying!!
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Post by starseeker on May 10, 2014 19:57:01 GMT
Close to lyme. , well trying!! Very nice, We often visit Lyme as we are only 30 mins away, we live in a small town called Crewkerne in somerset.
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Post by rokdok on May 10, 2014 21:13:53 GMT
Close to lyme. , well trying!! Very nice, We often visit Lyme as we are only 30 mins away, we live in a small town called Crewkerne in somerset. Wo we're 20 minutes from Crewkerne.
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Post by kstronach on May 10, 2014 21:19:21 GMT
hi,
just seen your build thread, looks fantastic, your rings are perfect! i too like the oak frame and for what its worth i think your original castors idea was an interesting one, eg if you had a level area say and a big garage or similar where you could store the oven when not in use, it could be garaged up when not in use keeping nice and dry then wheeled into position when needed! just out of interest how come you decided to build most of the dome before the arch? most builds i've seen get the arch up first and work to it.
anyway . . yes you're fine putting the blanket straight on to the bricks if you want to, how much blanket are you using? are you going to vermi over the blanket as well? how are you planning to finish the oven?
keith
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Post by rokdok on May 11, 2014 20:03:27 GMT
Hi Keith, Thanks for your comments. I'm sure the castor idea would work and there would be some situations like you describe where it would be useful- you'd have to keep the weight of the oven down though- I think each castor would take 140 kg. I'm sure I've seen some builds where the arch goes up in tandem with the dome ? I don't know why I just did it. I thought it would be more stable if I keyed the arch into the dome. Her's a couple of photos showing that. I took part of the arch down again after I bashed a bit of the dome too hard and disturbed the mortar so I rebuilt it - today having seen your post hence I was able to take some pics. Here's where I'd got to by the end of today. It was a really nice feeling tapping home the keystone. Thanks for the info re putting the ceramic blanket directly onto the brick. I haven't got a lot of spare room to work with for the insulation etc- at least not for the fist 6 inches or so. I'm going to use 50-75mm of blanket- 50 probably right at the base then increasing to 75. I do want to get a bit of the devil's porridge on - depends on what space I've got. When I was mocking up a few weeks ago I thought about this idea for a dome/arch thermal break- basically cutting a thermolite block so it is half thickness and then cutting three bits to form an arch. The idea would be to cover the thermalite with some HB, on the base cut some 1 inch firebricks to sit over the thermalite. Cheers Paul
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Post by kstronach on May 11, 2014 21:12:03 GMT
Good idea for the thermal break, and yeah I see now from your arch pictures how you've tied it in, that probably is a stronger design!
Good work sir
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Post by rokdok on May 12, 2014 12:12:28 GMT
Thanks Keith. I had a bit of a problem with different levels of the ring attached to the arch. It had dropped a bit on the right hand side - which meant that I cut a bit too much off the arch bricks to accommodate the ring and had to use quite a bit of mortar to build it up. I ended up putting a keystone in the ring that is resting on the arch. It's a nice feeling tapping it tightly home. I am a bit nervous about taking the former out- I think most people seem to use a brick length for the width of the arch - this one is only a half brick wide. I'll do it this afternoon. So, completed the ring and got it about level. Ten minutes ago this was the weather. It's really sunny now so back to the grindstone ( or saw ) Cheers Paul
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Post by rivergirl on May 12, 2014 12:16:17 GMT
Very nice, We often visit Lyme as we are only 30 mins away, we live in a small town called Crewkerne in somerset. Wo we're 20 minutes from Crewkerne. Crewkerne is the furthest we will be looking!! Yo! Perhaps a pizza , BBQ housewarming!!!
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Post by starseeker on May 12, 2014 19:39:02 GMT
It is fair to say that this is a lovely part of the world, Pizza,housewarming sounds great !
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Post by rokdok on May 12, 2014 21:35:23 GMT
Starseeker- definitely is a lovely part of the world- Rivergirl- are you going to rent somewhere first ? To get a taste perhaps you should try the Purbeck Folk festival in Langton Matravers or the forever sun festival in Came Down just outside Dorchester. Anyway, back to the thread !! I took the form away and the arch didn't fall down- I think I would have cried if it had.I put an inspection lamp inside to take these pics as it was a bit dark when I'd finished. So heres what it's looking like now I'm happy but it does take a long time and create a lot of mess to cut all these bricks. Here's the arch/ ring junction from th inside needs a bit of extra mortar lastly one from the top...almost round and a bit dragon tooth in places. Work now stops play till Saturday. Cheers RokDok
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Post by cannyfradock on May 13, 2014 18:30:50 GMT
Now then RokDok.....I've missed so much of activities lately on the forum but, I'm so glad you have detailed all of your posts.
It's very much a credit to your skills ...that you have posted a pic of the arch transition (from the interior).....most of us who show pics on each stage build miss out that pic.....I often tend to, although even if the transition is not perfect....and has to go a bit oval to make the full ring above, as long as the jointed is pointed soon after laying and is "sponged off" to leave no edges then it's good to go. In your case you look like you have the perfect transition and the work looks....spot on.....I see many different sizes of brick in that transition, but that's "bricks and mortar"....for you. I touch my forelocks to you Sir....
(I'm a bit of a "nerd" for watching cooking programmes especially where there's a WFO in the sketch. I've noticed on more than one occasion that James Martin passes his hand just inside the oven opening before placing food in....as if to check if any soot is falling down from the transition. I can only presume that whoever built his oven didn't point/smooth off the interior of the oven at the transition point......this of course would lead to a build up of carbon/soot just inside the door).....you have no worries on that point and I also commend you on the rest of the dome.....great placement of cut bricks to avoid too many vertical joints....and nice smooth finish to the interior.
Loving your build RokDok...
Terry
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Post by docfester on May 13, 2014 18:41:17 GMT
Gob-smackingly good Paul. Wish I had your patience to cut every brick and although time consuming has elevated your build to something special. Love the cathedral look of the inside with the inspection lamp. With the promise of good weather this weekend hope you get the chance to complete the dome. I'm on my 4th curing fire today so things are drying out, on the inside at least!
Cheers
Pete
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Post by rokdok on May 15, 2014 13:34:12 GMT
Terry, Pete, thanks very much for your comments. Once again I really grateful to everyone for everything I've learnt on this forum- thanks Terry for the Jewson discount too. . I'm really enjoying the build and can't wait till the weekend when I hope to finish the dome. Pete- fourth firing already ?? any cracks- sounds like you are taking it steady. Hopefully I'll post some more pics at the weekend All The Best Paul
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Post by docfester on May 15, 2014 21:33:14 GMT
Pete- fourth firing already ?? any cracks- sounds like you are taking it steady. A few small cracks but nothing to worry about. Like most people the curing fires started small, paper etc, and got a bit carried away by the 3rd firing!! Look forward to seeing your progress this weekend. Pete
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