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Post by bry on Aug 8, 2016 19:01:10 GMT
Evening
im in the early stages of my pizza oven build which I decided to do to fill a dead space and because I'm an idiot, I'm doing it in my spare time (which I dont seem to have an of) and I between a million other jobs around the house and garden.. I started about 3 years ago.. But only built the Block work and couple courses of brick so I could get on and lay my patio, it then went on the back burner and hadn't been touched until a Week ago. It's going to be a Pompeii oven with bbq next to it for the most part I know what I want to end up with and have pretty much planned (in my head) how, although my plans do change quite frequently and get more and more involved and costly...
I could do with pointing In the right direction with where best to source fire bricks, boards blankets fire cement etc, I've looked on vitcas's website several times but i suspect they're probably not best priced and merchants I use aren't very fourthcoming with price on fire bricks let alone anything else..
also does any have any pictures of fancy bbq's with chimneys over the top, for some stupid reason I'm thinking the simple good old fashioned brick bbq you see quite commonly is a bit too simple
I'll try to post some pictures of my base so far, will post some pictures of the oven in about 15 years when I get there..
cheers
Ryan
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Post by bry on Aug 8, 2016 19:07:23 GMT
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Post by leetheldc on Aug 8, 2016 20:42:47 GMT
Hi there Ryan it looks like you have set your self a task there as for materials most on here use kilnlings.co.uk they are probably the cheapest in uk there is a discount code for members of this site somewhere on the forum I should imagine it still works just search the term. I'm sure you have downloaded the plans for the oven as for the BBQ I added a BBQ/ fireplace to the right of my oven with a smoke hood and chimney as you have lintels over you have a flat for a few types of cooking maybe Argentinain grill, Cypriot or just standard coal pit. I added cobbled bricks in my opening so all these things could be done,plus smokingwith some doors on there I have a stainless steel slot in BBQ I had made at the minute. after food, that comes out and the fireplace comes in to action all the building is in my link
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Post by bry on Aug 8, 2016 22:35:00 GMT
Hi lee just read through your build thread (took a while..) the scale of your build makes me feel a bit better about how much I have to do, im glad I have a limited amount of space or im sure I would have ended up closer to your size.. I see you also have the same problem of life getting in the way when you want to get on with it. Your BBQ is the sort of thing I had in my mind amongst a couple other ideas, just a bit smaller as I don't have as much room.
The block and beam option seemed the obvious option to me, much easier than casting a slab, I reckon by time I cut the beams it took me less than an hour to do.
as you've blatantly done far more research than me (I just to look till I find something that's basically bias confirmation..) would you agree that an insulation board is far easier and quicker than adding a vermiculite slab also negating the drying issue??
out of interest (im a plasterer, I know little to nothing about chimneys, brick work and fires etc) did you add the twin wall flues just to help prevent unsightly cracking in your brickwork or is there a more crucial reason for them??
im also going for a finished brick exterior but wont be making anywhere near as an impressive exterior arch/chimney, im also very jealous of the colour your much dries, did you just get lucky with the sand or are you mixing sands to get that, our local sydnehams building sand used to dry a very similar colour so I went with that hoping it still would after they confirmed its still the same quarry but dried grey so the F**kers must be digging somewhere different
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Post by bry on Aug 8, 2016 22:41:41 GMT
Oh also had any one come across a sensibly priced chop saw or similar that will take a diamond disk? I see evolution do a chop off saw which they sell a 355mm diamond blade for but would best part of £300 all in and i imagine it's bit limited on angles. I have a stihl stone saw but was hoping to find something a bit more precise as I don't have the steadiest hands
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Post by bry on Aug 9, 2016 19:38:44 GMT
Had a couple hours this afternoon before the other half got home with the little one as finished work early, hate dragging the mixer out and getting it dirty for sake of an hour but keen to keep moving forward. Not got a great deal done but gone over top of arches now, cut a couple of them about fifty time.. Still not entirely happy but was rushing and every time I cocked it up I rushed more, ,any do something stupid and try to make some small adjustments with little grinder, prob live to regret it mind..
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Post by bry on Aug 9, 2016 19:39:33 GMT
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Post by leetheldc on Aug 10, 2016 10:09:42 GMT
Yep life always gets in the way and makes for slow progress it's a battle! As for the saw when I first signed up to this forum there was a few builders using the evo saw il try to think who they where. I used a sthil worked great for me any angle any cut was easy enough to do. Yes the board is way better. Faster and more efficient. I used the twin wall for both precaution and just from research really full belt and braces. As for my mortar I used white cement and a red sand from wickes they also changed the damn supplier half way through my build to yellow sand! I was fuming as hell. luckily I remembered they had a tonne bag of it they used to block the entrance when they closed so I made them sell me it
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Post by bry on Aug 10, 2016 12:34:54 GMT
I did contemplate mixing up some different samples with ginger sand an white cement as could tell the sand wasn't quite the same colour it used to be but decided it would delay me too much and that would have probably led to me leaving it another year..
Now I'm nearly finished building the base iv had a measure up and reckon I can fit an 850mm dome (internal) with it angled so entrance points towards the centre of the two arches rather than straight forward. I built the base as big as felt wouldn't be over powering in the space rather than for a specific dome size.
Does any one have any suggestion of materials qty for roughly this size, from looking around on Internet my best gues is about 180 fire bricks for floor and some. 2 X 7m rolls of 25mm blanket so I can double tap and overlap joints and 2 X 1200x1000 25mm insulation boards to end up 50mm total. Sound in the right ball park? Oh I am planning to tapper bricks to a certain extent to reduce joints
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Post by bry on Aug 10, 2016 16:57:57 GMT
Managed to finish off the base this afternoon when I got back from work, although I may add a course depending where my oven floor ends up and what I decide to cap the base with. In my haste and my shortfall of knowledge when it comes to brick laying and laying out my courses didnt quite work out when I got to the top of my arches, think I've blagged my way past it enough that no body apart from a Brickie would notice once the dome and everything is on
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Post by bry on Aug 10, 2016 16:58:33 GMT
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Post by bry on Aug 10, 2016 17:00:26 GMT
this is the slabs I was thinking of capping the base with and the brick I might do the outer skin of the dome with as the ones I used for the base don't have very good ends and are very onatural in shape.. Now thinking the slabs probably not thick enough to look right tho
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Post by bry on Aug 16, 2016 16:06:28 GMT
Plan on using this to bong my decrotive outer arch to my inner firebrick arch and it'll hopefully act as bit of a heat break at the same time
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Post by bry on Aug 16, 2016 16:16:11 GMT
Fire bricks blanket and board are coming from kilnlinings on Thursday.
bought a sheet of 50mm king span earlier whilst picking up some plasterboard
my plan is to have 50mm of king span (which will act as a dpc as well as reflective insulation) then 2x25mm calsil board bonded to that (100mm total) then fire brick laid flat herringbone
then iv hopefully got enough 13mm ceramic blanket to do the dome 3 times and then I plan to put some superquilt I have lying round over that (is the equivalent of 200mm of Rockwall but is about 20mm) quick render coat to hold it all in then faced up with brick
was as hopeing to make a good start Saturday but looks like I might have to plaster a f****** conservatory instead
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Post by oblertone on Aug 17, 2016 16:43:30 GMT
was as hopeing to make a good start Saturday but looks like I might have to plaster a f****** conservatory instead Won't that make it hard to see out of ?
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